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Conan the destroyer
QUOTE(DuncanHead @ Dec 14 2005, 11:41 AM) [snapback]4776413[/snapback]
According to http://www.odts.de/southptr/needham/measures.htm one Tang chi is 250mm, or about 9.8 modern inches. So an 18-"foot" Tang lance would be 4.5 metres, or about 14 feet 9 inches (assuming I've got my sums right....).


That would be more reasonable. tongue.gif
Ta-ts'in Centurion
QUOTE(Conan the destroyer @ Dec 14 2005, 08:38 AM) [snapback]4776431[/snapback]
That would be more reasonable. tongue.gif


Definitely.

That makes a lot more sense.
MengTzu
QUOTE(tadamson @ Dec 13 2005, 10:15 AM) [snapback]4776187[/snapback]
18 feet seems too long. the regulations would be very interesting.


QUOTE(Ta-Ts'in Centurian)
That definitely sounds too long.


I'm guessing they are talking about 18 Han "feet" (ancient Chinese used different measurements than today, obviously.) The Han "foot" (尺, or chi) is shorter than the modern foot. Some estimated that one Han foot is about 23 cm. 18 Han "feet" should be around 14 feet.
Yun
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Q: Was the spear head during the ancient times specialized diamond-shaped?


Ancient spear heads varied quite a lot in shape, from leaf-shaped to teardrop-shaped to sword-shaped, but they tended to get longer and more gradually tapered from Shang to Han.

Typical Shang-Zhou spear heads:





Warring States spear heads:





Western Han spear head:
http://www.ccnt.com.cn/antique/zhiliaoku/w...odution/013.htm

This was a glass replica of an actual spear head, and was unearthed in Changsha, 1956
CARDINAL009
Great Pixs.

The structure of the spearhead in the 1st picture reminds me of the US's WWII Office of Strategic Services (OSS) logo.
shurite7
I've been reading a dissertation sent to me by professor Peter Lorge of Vanderbilt University regarding the Song Dynasty. He quoted the longer spears ranged from 5.544 meters to 5.775 meters in length. Unfortunetely he doesn't go into the types of spearheads.

Cheers
Yun
From Yang Hong's "Weapons in Ancient China":

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As to the precise length of the spear of the Han dynasty, definite information was obtained from Tomb No. 94 at Shaogou, Luoyang. The tomb dates to the first half of the third period which is equivalent to the late period of the Western Han dynasty. The long spear was found lying on the left side of a skeleton. The iron spearhead has an overall length of 47 cm, and the edge of blade is 20 cm long. Below the blade is the hollow cylindrical handle which has an inner radius of 2 cm. The blade was covered in rotten wood, which may have been the sheath. The wooden shaft was inserted in the hollow part of the cylindrical iron handle. The other end of the shaft was capped with a bronze ferrule, called dun. The wooden shaft does not remain, but the bronze dun still lies in its original position. The distance between the tip of the iron spearhead and this bronze ferrule is 250 cm. This should be the original length of the spear.
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