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I was at a Chinese Medicine doctor looking for a bottle of Dit Da Jow (Fall, Hitting Liquid), not in front in a Chinese word processor, cannot write out the characters. ... I have a set of different Dit Da Jow medicine from different people (Doctors and Sifus), a few of the different bottle are pretty darn good, the rest just plainly sucks. ... Everyone has their own remedy. ... I can tell by the smell and the touch of the liquid. ... Do any of ya have the receipe? ... I like to see what are the similar and different stuff that goes in people's "Dit Da Jow" remedy?
Are you talking about 鐵打膏 tiedagao?
QUOTE(Kulong @ Jan 19 2006, 09:28 PM) [snapback]4784918[/snapback]
Are you talking about 鐵打膏 tiedagao?
I don't think so, I think it is 鐵打酒 (tedajiu). The medicine was first introducd to the west by cantonese. Of which mandarin pingyin didn't apply so most translated it to Dit Da Jow.
QUOTE(Wujiang @ Jan 19 2006, 09:37 PM) [snapback]4784920[/snapback]
I don't think so, I think it is 鐵打酒 (tedajiu). The medicine was first introducd to the west by cantonese. Of which mandarin pingyin didn't apply so most translated it to Dit Da Jow.
I've never heard of the name "Dit Da Jow" in the U.S... but I've heard of 鐵打膏 tiedagao back when I was in Taiwan.
QUOTE(Wujiang @ Jan 19 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]4784920[/snapback]
I don't think so, I think it is 鐵打酒 (tedajiu). The medicine was first introducd to the west by cantonese. Of which mandarin pingyin didn't apply so most translated it to Dit Da Jow.
Do not think 鐵 is thecorrect character.
Believe the word [Dit] means [fall] in cantonese.
It started out as 跌打, but as time goes by both are now commonly used. It doesn't really matter actually, as long as we all know what it is refering to.
QUOTE(Wujiang @ Jan 21 2006, 02:17 AM) [snapback]4785203[/snapback]
It started out as 跌打, but as time goes by both are now commonly used. It doesn't really matter actually, as long as we all know what it is refering to.
Wujiang, Cool! Great job in clearing out the term for me. ... Dit Da Jow 跌打 酒 or tedajiu 鐵打酒. ...
I am old schooler. .. I like to refer it as Dit Da Jow 跌打 酒. ... I heard that there are two types: One for healing the bones and the tendons;. The other one is for strengthening the bones and tendons. ... I always thought there was just one that does everything. ... Do anyone has any of the recipes for the Dit Da Jow 跌打 酒? ...
You can't find it at your local Chinese pharmacy?
Like anything else, there're many grade of quality.
QUOTE(Kulong @ Jan 21 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]4785290[/snapback]
You can't find it at your local Chinese pharmacy?
Say Hey Kulong, Most of them are bad. ... The few home-made batch that are good, are hard to get! You know? ... The guy who made it, ain't gonna to let out his list of stuff to everyone. ... I am looking at making my own. ... Dit Da Jow is a good symbol of Chinese Martial Arts training, especially in a historical way. ...
I agree that most of the stuff at the Chinese pharmacies is not really in the same class as a good ol' fashioned dit da jow, "like my sifu used to make." 
Yunnan Baiyao spray or liquid is pretty good, but won't really help some of the deep contusions produced by conditioning exercises.
Robert Chu, L.Ac. and Wing Chun guy has a website with some good info on Chinese medicine remedies for martial artists; he gives a dit da jow recipe here.
It's a fair recipe for bruises and perhaps even sprains, but will not strengthen tendons&bones. I'm of the opinion that this recipe is probably only part of a larger, traditional recipe.
That jow is a good example of a "healing" formula, but there are also formulas for "strengthening" or for both. Most dit da jow recipes are pretty closely guarded, passed on only to a sifu's closest students. I've seen a lot of association between dit da jow and iron palm practices, which may be part of the secrecy. Also, some of the ingredients can be pretty foul and/or somewhat poisonous (though safe to use externally)... maybe it is just common decency to keep the recipe secret!
As a martial artist I understand that it is something precious, not to be given out freely... but as an herbalist I feel like that kind of secrecy is probably outdated, and we could all learn from studying and comparing these traditional recipes.
Even so, if my sifu gave me a secret recipe I'd probably think twice before posting it on the internet.
Yunnan Baiyao spray or liquid is pretty good, but won't really help some of the deep contusions produced by conditioning exercises.Robert Chu, L.Ac. and Wing Chun guy has a website with some good info on Chinese medicine remedies for martial artists; he gives a dit da jow recipe here.
It's a fair recipe for bruises and perhaps even sprains, but will not strengthen tendons&bones. I'm of the opinion that this recipe is probably only part of a larger, traditional recipe.
That jow is a good example of a "healing" formula, but there are also formulas for "strengthening" or for both. Most dit da jow recipes are pretty closely guarded, passed on only to a sifu's closest students. I've seen a lot of association between dit da jow and iron palm practices, which may be part of the secrecy. Also, some of the ingredients can be pretty foul and/or somewhat poisonous (though safe to use externally)... maybe it is just common decency to keep the recipe secret!
As a martial artist I understand that it is something precious, not to be given out freely... but as an herbalist I feel like that kind of secrecy is probably outdated, and we could all learn from studying and comparing these traditional recipes.
Even so, if my sifu gave me a secret recipe I'd probably think twice before posting it on the internet.
QUOTE(matt @ Mar 29 2006, 05:43 PM) [snapback]4799487[/snapback]
I agree that most of the stuff at the Chinese pharmacies is not really in the same class as a good ol' fashioned dit da jow, "like my sifu used to make." Yunnan Baiyao spray or liquid is pretty good, but won't really help some of the deep contusions produced by conditioning exercises.
Robert Chu, L.Ac. and Wing Chun guy has a website with some good info on Chinese medicine remedies for martial artists; he gives a dit da jow recipe here.
It's a fair recipe for bruises and perhaps even sprains, but will not strengthen tendons&bones. I'm of the opinion that this recipe is probably only part of a larger, traditional recipe.
That jow is a good example of a "healing" formula, but there are also formulas for "strengthening" or for both. Most dit da jow recipes are pretty closely guarded, passed on only to a sifu's closest students. I've seen a lot of association between dit da jow and iron palm practices, which may be part of the secrecy. Also, some of the ingredients can be pretty foul and/or somewhat poisonous (though safe to use externally)... maybe it is just common decency to keep the recipe secret!
As a martial artist I understand that it is something precious, not to be given out freely... but as an herbalist I feel like that kind of secrecy is probably outdated, and we could all learn from studying and comparing these traditional recipes.
Even so, if my sifu gave me a secret recipe I'd probably think twice before posting it on the internet.
Yunnan Baiyao spray or liquid is pretty good, but won't really help some of the deep contusions produced by conditioning exercises.Robert Chu, L.Ac. and Wing Chun guy has a website with some good info on Chinese medicine remedies for martial artists; he gives a dit da jow recipe here.
It's a fair recipe for bruises and perhaps even sprains, but will not strengthen tendons&bones. I'm of the opinion that this recipe is probably only part of a larger, traditional recipe.
That jow is a good example of a "healing" formula, but there are also formulas for "strengthening" or for both. Most dit da jow recipes are pretty closely guarded, passed on only to a sifu's closest students. I've seen a lot of association between dit da jow and iron palm practices, which may be part of the secrecy. Also, some of the ingredients can be pretty foul and/or somewhat poisonous (though safe to use externally)... maybe it is just common decency to keep the recipe secret!
As a martial artist I understand that it is something precious, not to be given out freely... but as an herbalist I feel like that kind of secrecy is probably outdated, and we could all learn from studying and comparing these traditional recipes.
Even so, if my sifu gave me a secret recipe I'd probably think twice before posting it on the internet.
I guess another Chinese secret that we will never find out. . . . But thanks for the introduction. ...
My Shifu can make Tie Da Jiu (Dit Da Jow/Jau), but he won't teach it to his students until they have reached a certain level of skill and of course have reached the age of 21. When correctly made and stored for some time it can be really potent. Don't buy the crap in plastic bottles, as it affects the chemical balance of the herbs. Also good Tie Da Jiu should have herbs in the bottle.
Hi,
we have our own dit da jow in our kung fu lineage (Lau family hung kuen) this reciepe is already very old,this cant be given out to anyone outside the family ..however I have another formular for iron palm which is very basic.I found this on another webpage (it was a blog actually)..cantfind the link but I copied the formular,its very basic and can be used after 7 days already..
Ingredients for TCM Medicinal Rice Wine
Chinese Eaglewood 沉香,
Safflower 紅花,
Red Paeony Root 赤芍,
Peach Seed 桃仁
Myrrh 沒藥,
Frankincense 乳香,
Fineleaf Schizonepeta Herb 荊芥,
Costustoot 木香
Bitter Orange 枳殼,
Szechuan Lovage Rhizome 川芎,
Platycodon Root 桔梗,
Dragon’s Blood 血竭,
Cortex Moutan 牡丹皮,
Chinese Angelica 歸尾,
Cape Jasmine Fruit 梔子,
Tortoise Shell 龜甲.
The above-mentioned sixteen Chinese medicines three measurements each
(上述16味 各三錢).
we have our own dit da jow in our kung fu lineage (Lau family hung kuen) this reciepe is already very old,this cant be given out to anyone outside the family ..however I have another formular for iron palm which is very basic.I found this on another webpage (it was a blog actually)..cantfind the link but I copied the formular,its very basic and can be used after 7 days already..
Ingredients for TCM Medicinal Rice Wine
Chinese Eaglewood 沉香,
Safflower 紅花,
Red Paeony Root 赤芍,
Peach Seed 桃仁
Myrrh 沒藥,
Frankincense 乳香,
Fineleaf Schizonepeta Herb 荊芥,
Costustoot 木香
Bitter Orange 枳殼,
Szechuan Lovage Rhizome 川芎,
Platycodon Root 桔梗,
Dragon’s Blood 血竭,
Cortex Moutan 牡丹皮,
Chinese Angelica 歸尾,
Cape Jasmine Fruit 梔子,
Tortoise Shell 龜甲.
The above-mentioned sixteen Chinese medicines three measurements each
(上述16味 各三錢).
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