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My personal View about Yun - 3 months off from CHF


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#1 General_Zhaoyun

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 12:59 AM

Uhmm.. felt compelled to say something about Yun.

As may well know, Yun will be leaving Singapore to do his PHD in Berkeley. We are going to have a farewell party for him. As he was busied with his Masters Thesis, he was away from CHF for 3 months. I am not sure if he will ever come back to Singapore, as he once informed me that if he cannot get a job in Singapore after his PHD in US, he will stay permanently in the US to teach chinese history.

I have to say the lack of Yun in CHF for the past 3 months is quite different. CHF feels quite different without Yun around, an important potent support force for academic information/source/advice. CHF would clearly be stronger and more powerful with him around.

Yun is the longest serving staff in CHF ever since CHF was founded 3 years ago. If I were to regard myself as the "founding emperor" of a dynasty, then clearly Yun is just like an important Prime Minister for CHF dynasty. To me, I compare him to famous "advisor" historical figures such as Zhang Liang of Han Dynasty (advising Liu Bang), Zhugeliang of Shu-han kingdom during 3 kingdom period, Wei Zhen of Tang dynasty (advising Li Shimin), Liu Bowen of Ming dynasty (advising Zhu Yuanzhang) etc. Not only does he provides good and sound advice, he was responsible for raising much of the quality of posting in the forum, establishing many policy and exam system. CHF would not have been what it's like if Yun is not around.


Clearly, Yun's departure from CHF 3 months ago makes me feel quite uneasy. But I do hope that after his thesis is over, he will come back to CHF again.

There are a number of other "important" members who have taken leave from CHF such as Snowybeagle, Urofpersia, Liang Jieming... I really miss them in CHF.

Below is my chinese comments about Yun:

Yun 是CHF的开国元勋,从创建论坛3年以来,一路为CHF出谋划策,贡献之大非同小可,以至CHF才有今天的太平盛世。 做为CHF 的重要谋臣和军师之一,Yun可以说是CHF的丞相, 他3个月的离去可以说是大大的削弱了CHF的力量,使到CHF丧失了一个重要的支柱。CHF没有他的日子感觉上好象少了什么东西。

若我把我自己比喻成CHF的"开国皇帝",那么Yun就如同中国历史上的开国名臣, 象春秋时期的管仲, 汉朝的张良,三国时期的诸葛亮,唐朝的魏征, 明朝的刘伯温。他的进谏我几乎是言听计从,除了创立科举制度,完善法律系统,提高内容学术的素质,Yun可以说是鞠躬尽瘁,死而后已,然他又不失学者风范,在态度上不展现傲慢,而是谦虚谨慎,耐心地为许多会员"服务"。这种精神是我最欣赏他的其中原因之一。三年前,我有幸认识他,可以说是一种机缘。

我希望Yun能够回来,纵使CHF今天已人才济济,在这人才辈出的年代,Yun 可以说还是个难得的人才。

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#2 Zorigo

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 01:11 AM

I don't know him. Frankly say, I login CHF to search and read Yun's post here.
I think he is man of integrity, so do his postings

Edited by Zorigo, 06 June 2007 - 01:15 AM.


#3 Gubook Janggoon

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 03:21 AM

Good for Yun. Cal's an amazing school and I'm sure he'll only find success there.
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#4 kaiselin

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 06:52 AM

I feel lucky to have joined CHF in time to have been able to have some conversations with Yun. I have missed his presence here these past few months.
Yun most definitely raised the level of the discussions and provided much good info when asked.
I wish him good luck in his quest to get his PHD.

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#5 Gweilo

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 09:46 AM

This is a bit selfish, but I hope he does stay in the USA. God knows we need a rational, intelligent, and patient voice like his teaching us here! :D
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#6 Thaibebop

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 10:29 AM

I hope he let's us know where he ends up teaching. When I get to my phd learning under Yun would be a great thing.
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#7 TwinkieDP

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 01:38 PM

Ha, too bad I live on the North East coast of U.S. Otherwise I could grab a cup of coffee with him. I'm not much of a history buff like Yun, my concerns focus more on modern day Chinese diaspora as well as China's recent developments. But it would be a great opportunity to converse with Yun if I ever get the chance.
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#8 Borjigin Ayurbarwada

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 03:36 PM

He is going to Berkeleys? Thats great. I'm sure he will be accepted. Berkeley is also one of the university that I applied for, hope I'll get in, then I can meet him personally.

#9 MC420

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 03:52 PM

UC Berley, UCLA, or Standford are great accademic institutions for any to advance their study and/or research in history, law, and other liberal arts as well.

Congrats to Yun; if it wasn't due to personal reason earlier (in the early 80's); I would have complete my studies in both Philosophy & History already. I believe with such zeal for history bug as Yun has exhibited, he will certainly be a great academian for Chinese history not only for CHF but for all of us who enjoy learning history as well. :notworthy:

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 04:21 PM

Yun's theories are quite original and creative. With his command of classical chinese I'm sure he will contribute alot to the academic community in the U.S., dispelling many myths about ethnic origins, and fill in the lack of information in English about the AOF.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 04:23 PM

I think CHF was extremely lucky to have such a knowledgeable and nice person as Yun among its founding members. As for me, after two years, I am amazed at how much I learned in CHF, a large part of which I owe to Yun. I won't wish good luck to you, Yun, because you have enough talent not to need luck, but I do hope your wife and you like it in Berkeley (and I must say I am a bit sad to realise that I'll visit Singapore after you're gone...).

And anyway, you'll miss us, won't you? So we might see you drop in at times...

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 05:58 PM

Congratulations to Yun on his acceptance into Berkeley! It's truly a world-class school!

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 08:14 PM

It does feel rather odd not seeing Yun at CHF. And it is saddening that he won't be here for a while, but it's not forever which is a good thing. Perhaps my application to Berkeley will be accepted. I'm hoping to get back into my studying of history at university. Although I would like to study under Yun, since most universities don't go into depth with Asian studies. Perhaps I'll have to go to a university in Asia...


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Posted 02 July 2007 - 11:10 PM

Berkeley seems to be an awfully popular school with CHF.

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 11:50 PM

I certainly appreciate Yun's hard work at CHF and the wealth of knowledge that he had shared with us. I am looking forward to the time that he will be back to inject more wisdom. I am certain that we will miss Yun and are counting the time when he should return in our midst, correcting, amending and upgrading the little knowledge we have of China History.




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