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#1 workhard

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 11:29 AM

does anyone know sites or books that talk about internal struggles of courts or power struggles not in the fighting sense but in mind to mind battles i hope u understand what i mean

secondly since there is the art of war that is being passed down are there any art on communication skills or the likes that the ancients wrote??

thank u for yr help its nice being here took me a long time to find a site like this i got here through a link from sammyboy's coffee shop forum thank u to the person that posted this link.

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 10:43 PM

does anyone know sites or books that talk about internal struggles of courts or power struggles not in the fighting sense but in mind to mind battles i hope u understand what i mean

secondly since there is the art of war that is being passed down are there any art on communication skills or the likes that the ancients wrote??

thank u for yr help its nice being here took me a long time to find a site like this i got here through a link from sammyboy's coffee shop forum thank u to the person that posted this link.

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I don't know much about english books, but there are plenty of chinese books on the political history of each dynasty. I recommend "A General History of China" published by Canfonian Pte Ltd. , which has quite a lot of stories on the internal power struggle, conspiracy within court.

Regarding 'mind-to-mind' battle, you will have to read "Di Wang Xue 帝王学" (Book of Emperor), a chinese classic about emperor's political tactic (权谋之术)http://www.qihoo.com...g/book_king.htm
Written about 1300 years ago, this book teaches how one can use various tactic, including underhand/unscrupulous means, to remove political opponents, obtain and consolidate one's own power.

Power corrupts, but in China, power tactic (used by various politician of the past) is very advanced and well-developed.
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 11:42 PM

I recommend "A General History of China" published by Canfonian Pte Ltd.


I'd recommend it only if you read the Chinese text. The English translation is quite unreadable.
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#4 workhard

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 11:13 AM

well i clicked the link but there was nothing there.

thanks for replying though now at least i got something i can look out for
u guys in singapore keke same as me.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 08:53 PM

does anyone know sites or books that talk about internal struggles of courts or power struggles not in the fighting sense but in mind to mind battles i hope u understand what i mean

I recenty read Sterling Seagrave's Dragon lady : the life and legend of the last empress of China, which is a fascinating biography of Ci Xi. The book goes into a lot of detail about the intense power struggles that persisted during her life within the imperial government and between it and the foreign imperialists during the final decades of the Qing. The author offers a new and fairly compelling view in my opinion. He argues that, contrary to what many historians have said, Ci Xi was not the reptilian ogre or evil monster that so many historians and biographers have claimed she was. In fact, he says she exerted far less control and influence than has been claimed. Most of the time she was a figurehead and/or uninterested in politics. Instead, behind the scenes it was sundry scheming, high-ranking Manchu males who really ran the empire and set policy.
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#6 workhard

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 01:16 PM

hi sorry it was because my internet explorer got problem that's why click already got nothing.

do u know where i can borrow or buy this book??

I don't know much about english books, but there are plenty of chinese books on the political history of each dynasty.  I recommend "A General History of China" published by Canfonian Pte Ltd. , which has quite a lot of stories on the internal power struggle, conspiracy within court.

Regarding 'mind-to-mind' battle, you will have to read "Di Wang Xue 帝王学" (Book of Emperor), a chinese classic about emperor's political tactic (权谋之术)http://www.qihoo.com...g/book_king.htm
Written about 1300 years ago, this book teaches how one can use various tactic, including underhand/unscrupulous means, to remove political opponents, obtain and consolidate one's own power.

Power corrupts, but in China, power tactic (used by various politician of the past) is very advanced and well-developed.

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 01:33 PM

If you can't read Chinese, too bad.
But for those who are interested in Intellect, read up on Feng Meng Long's:
ZHI NANG QUAN JI

Feng Meng Long also wrote DONG ZHOU LIE GUO ZHI.
He was a scholar of the late Ming era. I would say that he is a better writer than Luo Guan Zhong. He also has an interesting personal philosophy.
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Posted 04 April 2005 - 12:01 PM

The passages on the teachings of "Gui Gu Zi" are also valuable in learning communication. Bearing in mind, legend has it that his pupils include "Sun Bin, Pang Juan" both great military stratergist and "Su Qin, Zhang Yi" the pioneers of "Zong Heng Jia".
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 12:49 PM

How about "Hou Hei Xue?" Dark aspect of politics.

Sorry cannot type Chinese.




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