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#31 Borjigin Ayurbarwada

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 10:56 PM

This is an interesting story, it is sad she has to suffer because of her parents immoral actions. Then again, I was told many times on this site that based on history and the current government in China someone who acts Han is Han and China is a multiethnic nation, no longer a Han dominated empire, so what is the issue? Isn't this girl just Shanghainese?


Thats not what the current goverment in China saids at all. You can't be a Han by just acting Han. Your ethnic group is determined by your birth and written on your passport. The only way you can choose is if you are of mixed ethnic descent. The PRC is a state that includes these 56 ethnic groups and exclusively these ethnic groups, which means that if you are not from one of the 56, meaning Africans and westerners, then you will have an extremely difficult time getting a Chinese citizen(I don't even think there is an official law in China that allows foreigners to become Chinese yet) Thats the difference between China's multi-ethnic nationstate and those that exist in the US.

#32 bloodmerchant

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 01:12 AM

This is an interesting story, it is sad she has to suffer because of her parents immoral actions. Then again, I was told many times on this site that based on history and the current government in China someone who acts Han is Han and China is a multiethnic nation, no longer a Han dominated empire, so what is the issue? Isn't this girl just Shanghainese? :huh:

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She looks African-American to me. I don't see anything Shanghainese about her, to be quite honest here (Since both my parents are Shanghainese). China doesn't include Africans and Europeans as part of the 56 ethnic groups. And if you are Han, you must be born as one. Since her father is not part of the 56 ethnic groups, then... Even Eurasian children born of white fathers and Chinese mothers are not considered to be Chinese.

To be quite honest here, the 'Han' ethnic group isn't just an ethnic group solely based on language and culture, but also on close genetic relatedness as well, with a fair spectrum of minor differences as one goes from North to South. Han ethnolingustic subgroups can be considered to be claded together. One cannot choose to be a Han, they have to be born one, and if you're born Han Chinese, you'll remain Han Chinese to the authorities.

Edited by bloodmerchant, 21 March 2010 - 01:12 AM.

吳王夫差將伐齊,子胥曰:不可。夫齊之與吳也,習俗不同,言語不通,我得其地不能處,得其民不得使。夫吳之與越也,接土鄰境,壤交通屬,習俗同,言語通,我得其地能處之,得其民能使之。
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#33 Jaak

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 02:54 AM

Thats not what the current goverment in China saids at all. You can't be a Han by just acting Han. Your ethnic group is determined by your birth and written on your passport. The only way you can choose is if you are of mixed ethnic descent. The PRC is a state that includes these 56 ethnic groups and exclusively these ethnic groups, which means that if you are not from one of the 56, meaning Africans and westerners, then you will have an extremely difficult time getting a Chinese citizen(I don't even think there is an official law in China that allows foreigners to become Chinese yet) Thats the difference between China's multi-ethnic nationstate and those that exist in the US.

And if you are Han, you must be born as one. Since her father is not part of the 56 ethnic groups, then... Even Eurasian children born of white fathers and Chinese mothers are not considered to be Chinese.


Are children born to a Han, Chinese citizen unmarried mothers in China regarded as Chinese citizens? If yes, what is their ethnic group in passport?




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