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Posted 08 January 2010 - 12:04 AM

It seems that many people had the idea that Manchu language and culture had been 'lost or eradicated' in China, after the Manchu had sinicized themselves throughly. Today, there are very few people in China who can speak or read the Manchu language.

However, I feel that Manchu culture had actually been merged into Chinese Culture. Though it had 'disappeared' on its way, many elements of Manchu culture are still preserved or present in today's Chinese Culture. In such a way, people didn't even realize that it's of Manchu origin and automatically took it as Chinese Culture. The Manchu's rule of China during Qing dynasty had actually influenced to a certain degree China's culture.

I'll list some elements of Manchu influence on Chinese Culture:

1. Traditional Chinese costumes such as Qipao 旗袍 (Cheong Sam) originated from Manchu, and is still formally worn in several formal occasion.

2. Many vocabularies of Manchu origin are present in today's Beijing Mandarin Chinese language.

E.g.

"lan san 懒散" - lazy
"tong lou zi 捅娄子"(闯祸) - get into trouble
"mai tai 埋汰"(不干净) - dirty
"yang ji 央计"(说好话) - speak good words
"gu ye 姑爷"(女婿) - son in law
"gu niang 姑娘"(女儿) - daughter
"la ta 邋遢" -sloppy
"ba bu te[font="黑"] 巴不得[/font] " - should
"sui he 随和 " - anyhow

Manchu had exerted a certain degree of influence on the Northern and North-East mandarin accent. Many of the Mandarin dialects in North-East China (Manchuria) contain many Manchu vocabularies. It was believed to be a result of pidgin between Manchu and Mandarin spoken.

3. Some Manchu folk songs and music such as Zidi Shu 子弟书 had influenced to a certain degree the Northern and North-East Chinese music

4. Many Chinese foods in the North or North-East China were food of Manchu origin , for e.g. Manchu-Han Banquet in Beijing (Manhan Quanxi 满汉全席), Sour Soup (Suan Tangzi 酸汤子), Bean Bao (Zhan Dou Bao 粘豆包), Sa Qima 萨其马 (a type of Manchu cake).

What are some other Manchu influence on Chinese culture you've noticed ?
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:59 AM

The same can be said of other ancient cultures in China such as Xianbei, Qidan, Yue, Shu, Chu. Where are they now adays? Pretty sure part of their cultures and languages have merged into what is Chinese today, especially the Chu and the Yue. So the Manchu just becomes part of what is Chinese.
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 07:53 AM

It seems that many people had the idea that Manchu language and culture had been 'lost or eradicated' in China, after the Manchu had sinicized themselves throughly. Today, there are very few people in China who can speak or read the Manchu language.

However, I feel that Manchu culture had actually been merged into Chinese Culture. Though it had 'disappeared' on its way, many elements of Manchu culture are still preserved or present in today's Chinese Culture. In such a way, people didn't even realize that it's of Manchu origin and automatically took it as Chinese Culture. The Manchu's rule of China during Qing dynasty had actually influenced to a certain degree China's culture.

I'll list some elements of Manchu influence on Chinese Culture:

1. Traditional Chinese costumes such as Qipao 旗袍 (Cheong Sam) originated from Manchu, and is still formally worn in several formal occasion.

2. Many vocabularies of Manchu origin are present in today's Beijing Mandarin Chinese language.

E.g.

"lan san 懒散" - lazy
"tong lou zi 捅娄子"(闯祸) - get into trouble
"mai tai 埋汰"(不干净) - dirty
"yang ji 央计"(说好话) - speak good words
"gu ye 姑爷"(女婿) - son in law
"gu niang 姑娘"(女儿) - daughter
"la ta 邋遢" -sloppy
"ba bu te[font="黑"] 巴不得[/font] " - should
"sui he 随和 " - anyhow

Manchu had exerted a certain degree of influence on the Northern and North-East mandarin accent. Many of the Mandarin dialects in North-East China (Manchuria) contain many Manchu vocabularies. It was believed to be a result of pidgin between Manchu and Mandarin spoken.

3. Some Manchu folk songs and music such as Zidi Shu 子弟书 had influenced to a certain degree the Northern and North-East Chinese music

4. Many Chinese foods in the North or North-East China were food of Manchu origin , for e.g. Manchu-Han Banquet in Beijing (Manhan Quanxi 满汉全席), Sour Soup (Suan Tangzi 酸汤子), Bean Bao (Zhan Dou Bao 粘豆包), Sa Qima 萨其马 (a type of Manchu cake).

What are some other Manchu influence on Chinese culture you've noticed ?


Manchus pretty much lived a segregated life. In every major city, like Canton or Xi'an, you have a ghetto called "huang cheng" or the imperial city, a place forbidden the access to the Han Chinese. Any Manchu cultural influence is passed on through the conqueror dominance. The seemingly abundant representation of Manchu culture today is more a result of a sycophancy among the writers of Manchu TV dramas, i.e., people of obscure origin or with possible background of being 私生子 [Bastards] from women taken over by the Manchus or "nu cai" with psychology of adorering the pigtails. Before 1911 Chinese and Manchu had strong sense of identity difference and there was no harmony as extolled on TV today. In 1911, almost all ghettos were wiped out by the Chinese rebels, with no less than one dozen Manchu governor-generals killed.

Edited by ahxiang, 10 January 2010 - 12:24 AM.





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