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#1 harandaa

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 05:09 AM

Hello everyone,
I was fascinated by Tibet Libre's question here about the development of the codex in China, and would like to start a thread devoted to codicological and palaeographical resources. I couldn't find an existing thread, but if I've missed one, let me know!

To get us started, I found an interesting review article by William G. Boltz: "Reading Early Chinese Manuscripts": a review of Shaughnessy, Edward L. (2006), Rewriting Early Chinese Texts, Albany, NY: State University of New York Press. The pdf is available here.

I'm mildly obssessed with codicology and palaeography, so I'll keep up a trickle of odds and ends.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 05:21 AM

More interesting stuff:

Galambos, Imre (2006), Orthography of Early Chinese Writing: Evidence from Early Chinese Manuscripts(Budapest Monographs in East Asian Studies, 1.), Budapest: Department of East Asian Studies, Eotvos Lorand University. Reviewed by T.H. Barrett here.

Meyer, Dirk (2005), A device for conveying meaning: the structure of the Guōdiàn Tomb One manuscript "Zhōng xìn zhī dào", [S.l.]: Iudicium.

Shaughnessy, Edward L. (1997), New sources of early Chinese history: an introduction to the reading of inscriptions and manuscripts, Early China special monograph series, no. 3, Berkeley, CA: Society for the study of Early China and the Institute of East Asian Studies, University of California, Berkeley.



Pictures and online catalogues:

The Schoyen Collection and pre-Gutenberg printed texts here

British Library 'Turning the Pages' - view the Diamond Sutra high quality or reduced quality
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Posted 11 February 2010 - 05:37 AM

The International Dunhuang Project website also has links to resources, and a number of interesting odds and ends: there is a brief discussion of previous projects, including the Palæographic Study of the Chinese and Tibetan Manuscripts from the Dunhuang Collections

Other resources from IDP include:
Introduction to Descriptive Catalogue of the Chinese Manuscripts from Tunhuang in the British Museum (English) (pdf)

and a searchable bibliography here.

Edited by harandaa, 11 February 2010 - 05:38 AM.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 10:23 AM

Thx a lot! Great sources!
假如有个恶魔在某日或某夜闯入你十分孤独的寂寞中,且对你说:"人生便是你目前所过、或往昔所过的生活,将来仍将不断重演,绝无任何新鲜之处。然而,每一样痛苦、欢乐、念头、叹息,以及生活中许多大大小小无法言传的事情皆会再度重现,而所有的结局也都一样——同样的月夜、枯树和蜘蛛,同样的这个时刻以及我。那存在的永恒之沙漏将不断地反复转动,而你在沙漏的眼中只不过是一粒灰尘罢了!" 那个恶魔竟敢如此胡说八道,难道你不咬牙切齿地诅咒他?还是,若在以前的话,你也许会回答他:"你真是一个神,我从未听过如此神圣的道理!" - Nietzsche, "Die fröhliche Wissenschaft", § 341

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 03:29 PM

Any idea where I can find the Dunhuang Mss. Stein 477, 3926 and 6453, and Pelliot's 2417 and 2435? It looks like these are not in IDP Database :crybaby:
假如有个恶魔在某日或某夜闯入你十分孤独的寂寞中,且对你说:"人生便是你目前所过、或往昔所过的生活,将来仍将不断重演,绝无任何新鲜之处。然而,每一样痛苦、欢乐、念头、叹息,以及生活中许多大大小小无法言传的事情皆会再度重现,而所有的结局也都一样——同样的月夜、枯树和蜘蛛,同样的这个时刻以及我。那存在的永恒之沙漏将不断地反复转动,而你在沙漏的眼中只不过是一粒灰尘罢了!" 那个恶魔竟敢如此胡说八道,难道你不咬牙切齿地诅咒他?还是,若在以前的话,你也许会回答他:"你真是一个神,我从未听过如此神圣的道理!" - Nietzsche, "Die fröhliche Wissenschaft", § 341

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 05:14 AM

Any idea where I can find the Dunhuang Mss. Stein 477, 3926 and 6453, and Pelliot's 2417 and 2435? It looks like these are not in IDP Database :crybaby:



Not a lot of luck so far. After looking at the 'Laozi' entry in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy I realised that you're talking about the Heshanggong fragments (showing my ignorance again).

On my travels I did find a few odds and ends:

Database for Buddhist Cave Temples in China - part of the Digital Silk Road project.

The pdf of Handbook to the Collections of Sir Aurel Stein in the UK here

Fraser, Sarah (2004), "An Introduction to the Material Culture of Dunhuang Buddhism: Putting the Object in Its Place", Asia Major 17 (1) pdf here.

Robson, James (2008), "Signs of Power: Talismanic Writing in Chinese Buddhism", History of Religions 48 (2); 130-169. (pdf here)


I'll keep looking

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 05:40 AM

Not a lot of luck so far. After looking at the 'Laozi' entry in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy I realised that you're talking about the Heshanggong fragments (showing my ignorance again).

On my travels I did find a few odds and ends:

Database for Buddhist Cave Temples in China - part of the Digital Silk Road project.

The pdf of Handbook to the Collections of Sir Aurel Stein in the UK here

Fraser, Sarah (2004), "An Introduction to the Material Culture of Dunhuang Buddhism: Putting the Object in Its Place", Asia Major 17 (1) pdf here.

Robson, James (2008), "Signs of Power: Talismanic Writing in Chinese Buddhism", History of Religions 48 (2); 130-169. (pdf here)


I'll keep looking


Nice links, and thanks a lot again! Yes, I'm working on the textual tradition of the Heshanggong commentary. Those fragments are the only "editions" I couldn't find (together with the Japanese editions, but a friend made a collation for me so it's ok). Zheng Chenghai edition of the Heshanggong has some lectures from Stein and Pelliot's, but still very incomplete :(

Edited by Honam, 12 February 2010 - 05:41 AM.

假如有个恶魔在某日或某夜闯入你十分孤独的寂寞中,且对你说:"人生便是你目前所过、或往昔所过的生活,将来仍将不断重演,绝无任何新鲜之处。然而,每一样痛苦、欢乐、念头、叹息,以及生活中许多大大小小无法言传的事情皆会再度重现,而所有的结局也都一样——同样的月夜、枯树和蜘蛛,同样的这个时刻以及我。那存在的永恒之沙漏将不断地反复转动,而你在沙漏的眼中只不过是一粒灰尘罢了!" 那个恶魔竟敢如此胡说八道,难道你不咬牙切齿地诅咒他?还是,若在以前的话,你也许会回答他:"你真是一个神,我从未听过如此神圣的道理!" - Nietzsche, "Die fröhliche Wissenschaft", § 341

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 06:53 AM

Other articles online:

Kern, Martin (2002), "Methodological Reflections on the Analysis of Textual Variants and the Modes of Manuscript Production in Early China", JEAA 4; 1-4. pdf here. This is on Steve Farmer's website, which looks quite interesting.

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 12:35 PM

I'll keep looking


I just found all of them in the 敦煌道藏. Nice scans, but the links seem dead by now.
假如有个恶魔在某日或某夜闯入你十分孤独的寂寞中,且对你说:"人生便是你目前所过、或往昔所过的生活,将来仍将不断重演,绝无任何新鲜之处。然而,每一样痛苦、欢乐、念头、叹息,以及生活中许多大大小小无法言传的事情皆会再度重现,而所有的结局也都一样——同样的月夜、枯树和蜘蛛,同样的这个时刻以及我。那存在的永恒之沙漏将不断地反复转动,而你在沙漏的眼中只不过是一粒灰尘罢了!" 那个恶魔竟敢如此胡说八道,难道你不咬牙切齿地诅咒他?还是,若在以前的话,你也许会回答他:"你真是一个神,我从未听过如此神圣的道理!" - Nietzsche, "Die fröhliche Wissenschaft", § 341

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 04:51 AM

I just found all of them in the 敦煌道藏. Nice scans, but the links seem dead by now.


After some fiddling I got to 白云深处人家, here but it requires a login and password - perhaps they're hidden in there somewhere...

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 05:34 AM

After some fiddling I got to 白云深处人家, here but it requires a login and password - perhaps they're hidden in there somewhere...


Yeah, the links I pointed out were those in 白云 ftp, but seems dead most of time :\ All links here but 国学数典 forum are dead. If anyone wants these files I can upload them somewhere else.
假如有个恶魔在某日或某夜闯入你十分孤独的寂寞中,且对你说:"人生便是你目前所过、或往昔所过的生活,将来仍将不断重演,绝无任何新鲜之处。然而,每一样痛苦、欢乐、念头、叹息,以及生活中许多大大小小无法言传的事情皆会再度重现,而所有的结局也都一样——同样的月夜、枯树和蜘蛛,同样的这个时刻以及我。那存在的永恒之沙漏将不断地反复转动,而你在沙漏的眼中只不过是一粒灰尘罢了!" 那个恶魔竟敢如此胡说八道,难道你不咬牙切齿地诅咒他?还是,若在以前的话,你也许会回答他:"你真是一个神,我从未听过如此神圣的道理!" - Nietzsche, "Die fröhliche Wissenschaft", § 341

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 05:25 AM

More stuff:

Tsao Hsingyuan (2003), "Unraveling the Mystery of the Handscroll‘Qingming shanghe tu’", Journal of Sung-Yuan Studies 33, 155-179.

The archive for Sung-Yuan Studies can be viewed here.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 05:11 AM

On ink and construction:

Robin J. H. Clark, Peter J. Gibbs, Kenneth R. Seddon, Nadezhda M. Brovenko, Yuri A. Petrosyan (1998), "Non-Destructive In Situ Identification of Cinnabar on Ancient Chinese Manuscripts", Journal of Raman Spectroscopy 28 (2-3); 91-94 (abstract: Wiley InterScience)

Robin J. H. Clark, Peter J. Gibbs, Kenneth R. Seddon, Nadezhda M. Brovenko, Yuri A. Petrosyan (1999), "Pigment identification studies in situ of Javanese, Thai, Korean, Chinese and Uighur manuscripts by Raman microscopy", Journal of Raman Spectroscopy 30 (3); 181-184
(abstract: Wiley InterScience)

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 05:31 AM

More odds and ends:

Boltz, William G. (1999), "The Fourth-Century B. C. Guodiann Manuscripts from Chuu and the Composition of the Laotzyy", Journal of the American Oriental Society 119 (4): 590-608.
Available via JSTOR here

Brokaw, Cynthia Joanne, and Kai-wing Chow (eds)(2005), Printing and Book Culture in Late Imperial China, Studies on China 27, Berkeley, CA: University of California Press.

Giles, Lionel (1939), "Dated Chinese Manuscripts in the Stein Collection", Bulletin of the School of Oriental Studies, University of London 9 (4): 1023-1046
Available via JSTOR here

Loewe, Michael A. N. (1977), "Manuscripts Found Recently in China: A Preliminary Survey", T'oung Pao, Second Series 63 (2/3): 99-136
Available via JSTOR here

Tu Wei-Ming (1979), "The 'Thought of Huang-Lao': A Reflection on the Lao Tzu and Huang Ti Texts in the Silk Manuscripts of Ma-wang-tui", The Journal of Asian Studies, 39 (1): 95-110
Available via JSTOR here

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 09:12 AM

Which reminds me of this:

Randall P. Peerenboom, Law and morality in ancient China: the silk manuscripts of Huang-Lao, SUNY, 1993.

And by extension:

Robert G. Henricks, Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching: A Translation of the Startling New Documents Found at Guodian, Columbia Univ. Press., 2000.

I will try to post links of Peerenboom book (complete) and the Dunhuang Daoist texts later.
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