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#1 JohnD

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 07:20 AM

I hope no one minds me making a separate thread for this, but I want to make sure people see it. Anyway, I'm formally announcing a call for submissions for the Kunlun Journal of Chinese Historical Fiction. This is the journal I was talking about starting in this thread. Thanks to everyone who voted in the poll and commented on that thread. I encourage you all to submit something to the journal. It will only be as good as the fans make it. Anyway, I'm pretty excited. The website for the journal is up here: http://www.kunlunjournal.blogspot.com/ You can read the submission guidelines there. Thanks again for everyone's input.

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 12:17 PM

Congrats! Wishing you the best of luck. :clapping:
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 01:01 PM

Congrats! Wishing you the best of luck. :clapping:


Thanks! It's kind of daunting since I've never done this before.

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 04:27 PM

I didn't realize you had started this thread. I will post anything related to the journal here from now on.

I noticed that you uploaded a map of Tang China. This book has a partitioned modern world map (pp. 305-306) showing the Chinese names for countries from Spain to Japan during the Song Dynasty. The book itself gives a description of each country listed on the map and the foreign items imported to China at this time. As you know, the Song was home to many foreigners, so this would be useful for anyone who writes a story during the Song Dynasty. I realize you said it is annoying when writers flaunt their knowledge, but utilizing such material isn't showing off in my opinion. Even though the story will be written in English, the characters are going to have Chinese names. You wouldn't name them Frank or Steve. Likewise, when mentioning foreign place names, I think it would be wise to use their Chinese names. The authors can just put a foot note at the bottom with the modern day equivalent. Plus, it will be more historically correct if people only mention the countries that China knew about during the relevant time their story is set.

I actually printed out and bound a different pdf version of this book several months ago. However, the link above has a much better map than what I have. The lines are much darker and the words are more crisp. I am currently in the process of using the "print screen" function on my computer to piece together a large version of the map that I can zoom into. That way I can use it when trying to find a given country using the book. I can email you the finished product so you can post it on the journal if you like. You could just have a section devoted entirely for maps for contributors to use as a resource.

Edited by ghostexorcist, 02 January 2011 - 04:56 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2011 - 09:07 PM

I didn't realize you had started this thread. I will post anything related to the journal here from now on.

I noticed that you uploaded a map of Tang China. This book has a partitioned modern world map (pp. 305-306) showing the Chinese names for countries from Spain to Japan during the Song Dynasty. The book itself gives a description of each country listed on the map and the foreign items imported to China at this time. As you know, the Song was home to many foreigners, so this would be useful for anyone who writes a story during the Song Dynasty. I realize you said it is annoying when writers flaunt their knowledge, but utilizing such material isn't showing off in my opinion. Even though the story will be written in English, the characters are going to have Chinese names. You wouldn't name them Frank or Steve. Likewise, when mentioning foreign place names, I think it would be wise to use their Chinese names. The authors can just put a foot note at the bottom with the modern day equivalent. Plus, it will be more historically correct if people only mention the countries that China knew about during the relevant time their story is set.

I actually printed out and bound a different pdf version of this book several months ago. However, the link above has a much better map than what I have. The lines are much darker and the words are more crisp. I am currently in the process of using the "print screen" function on my computer to piece together a large version of the map that I can zoom into. That way I can use it when trying to find a given country using the book. I can email you the finished product so you can post it on the journal if you like. You could just have a section devoted entirely for maps for contributors to use as a resource.


Thanks for that. All the maps and resources I can get are welcome. When I mention flaunting knowledge, I'm talking about using foreign words that already have English equivalents, focusing on cultural things the writer and reader would find exotic, but which would be mundane to the characters, that kind of thing. Using the names of places and other things as they were during that time I am all for, which is part of the reason why I posted the Tang map.

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 09:33 PM

I took the liberty of piecing together that map; maybe save you some trouble. Is this big enough? Larger image: http://i.min.us/ibrmA2.png

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 10:10 PM

I took the liberty of piecing together that map; maybe save you some trouble. Is this big enough? Larger image: http://i.min.us/ibrmA2.png

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I have already pieced the map together, but thank you for the effort anyway. I cannot view the larger map. The hosting website says this is "because it contains errors."

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 10:18 PM

I have already pieced the map together, but thank you for the effort anyway. I cannot view the larger map. The hosting website says this is "because it contains errors."


That's strange. There's nothing wrong with it; I just checked it in Chrome and Firefox. Are you using Internet Explorer? Because it wouldn't load there for me for some reason.

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 10:22 PM

That's strange. There's nothing wrong with it; I just checked it in Chrome and Firefox. Are you using Internet Explorer? Because it wouldn't load there for me for some reason.

I'm using Firefox. I've checked it several more times and it still won't work. That is weird.

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 10:37 PM

I'm using Firefox. I've checked it several more times and it still won't work. That is weird.


Maybe this link will work: http://picasaweb.goo...798294884320802

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 07:03 PM

Maybe this link will work: http://picasaweb.goo...798294884320802

The link worked this time. The map is a good size, but I just noticed most of Africa is missing. I remember now why I opted for a different version. The map I used when I printed out the book in full comes from:

http://ebook.lib.hku...ADAL/B31403797/

See pages 301 and 302. Even the fine print is readable if you zoom in enough. I pieced together a rather large version of each half (400%), but they are too big to upload, unfortunately. Most of the sites I have tried either reject them or condense them. I'm sure you will probably have better luck at it.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 08:03 PM

The link worked this time. The map is a good size, but I just noticed most of Africa is missing. I remember now why I opted for a different version. The map I used when I printed out the book in full comes from:

http://ebook.lib.hku...ADAL/B31403797/

See pages 301 and 302. Even the fine print is readable if you zoom in enough. I pieced together a rather large version of each half (400%), but they are too big to upload, unfortunately. Most of the sites I have tried either reject them or condense them. I'm sure you will probably have better luck at it.


That's definitely a better version of the map. I'll have to find a way to grab it from that site. I was wondering why the southwest corner of the map was blank.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:42 PM

Here's the new map: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CMUVC3M5

I couldn't get the file size lower (it's 31MB) so that's why the d/l link.

Note Malaysia on that map: It says "kun-lun"

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Posted 04 January 2011 - 06:26 AM

Here's the new map: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CMUVC3M5

I couldn't get the file size lower (it's 31MB) so that's why the d/l link.

Note Malaysia on that map: It says "kun-lun"

That looks better than the originals. How did you get the text and outlines darker? The reason why I didn't like this map when I originally printed the book out is because it was so pale.

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Posted 04 January 2011 - 07:29 AM

That looks better than the originals. How did you get the text and outlines darker? The reason why I didn't like this map when I originally printed the book out is because it was so pale.


i adjusted the levels in photoshop and sharpened it a bit.




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