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#16 Pattie

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 01:13 PM

Sullen Time-Traveling Teen...
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#17 Mei Houwang

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 08:38 PM

New guidelines issued on March 31 discourage plot lines that contain elements of "fantasy, time-travel, random compilations of mythical stories, bizarre plots, absurd techniques, even propagating feudal superstitions, fatalism and reincarnation, ambiguous moral lessons, and a lack of positive thinking.


Do this mean the Monkey King is banned?

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 08:57 PM

Things like Eight Immortals should also be banned?

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#19 Gan

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 12:56 PM

I know what you are trying to say, that it's terribly important and grounded in nature and so precise and yet mind boggling theoretic stuff at the same time. That's great, I just don't think I'm quite getting across my "pitch". You see while you and I are having this conversation for example we think it's because we are within the same realm for various givens like how we are living on the same planet and transmitting the same kinds of binary codes. It's really no different than from when we decide to live on different planets getting there using super fast craft. One guy just ends up living unnaturally longer than the other but not because he travels into the future but rather because he is actually stuck in the "past" while the other guy's biological clock continues racing forward. Both will still be "traveling" into the same "future".


Living on different planets will produce a whole range of interesting affects, besides time. For us on Earth, we've evolved to deal with the environment. Our biological clocks revolved (as far as we know) around the Earth's rotation with the Sun. We evolved to deal with living on Earth. On another planet, time might be shorter or longer. Along with the differences of gravity and other forces and natural phenomenons. The environment may have different ratios of elements in the air, water, land, etc. That will affect everything we do, cause we have to breathe in, get exposed and eat stuff affected by the environment. Overtime, like in a couple of generations or more, humans on other planets will be different physically than they are on Earth. Same species, but there will be some differences. Strange but interesting stuff.

Edited by Gan, 25 April 2011 - 12:57 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2011 - 01:44 AM

Living on different planets will produce a whole range of interesting affects, besides time. For us on Earth, we've evolved to deal with the environment. Our biological clocks revolved (as far as we know) around the Earth's rotation with the Sun. We evolved to deal with living on Earth. On another planet, time might be shorter or longer. Along with the differences of gravity and other forces and natural phenomenons. The environment may have different ratios of elements in the air, water, land, etc. That will affect everything we do, cause we have to breathe in, get exposed and eat stuff affected by the environment. Overtime, like in a couple of generations or more, humans on other planets will be different physically than they are on Earth. Same species, but there will be some differences. Strange but interesting stuff.


Actually there is another alternative for the problem that you were just mentioning. It is possible to simulate with technology the very night day effects and the same gravitational momentum using a space station which revolves at a constant speed. The atmosphere and lighting conditions can be adjusted and people can go on living the same way even when the craft moves to another location in a different system.
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 02:45 AM

I still do not understand the rationale behind the banning of the Back to the Future films. Those films inspired and attracted several generations of philosophical thinkers and scientific thinkers into exploring the possibility of time travel. Allowing the freedom of expression unleashes the creative forces to generate ideas from society. Whether those ideas are science fiction or science reality is irrelevant, because what is fiction today may possibly be reality tomorrow. Science fiction and science reality tend to have an inherent ability to reciprocate from each other; just ask Dr. Michio Kaku, for example, a theoretical physicist, who is constantly exploring the bridge between science fiction and scientific reality. For example, Star Trek films with which ideas of warp drive, teleportation, food replication ideas that were once deemed “only in the movies,” are now seriously explored in the United States. Films like Star Trek inspired mathematicians like Dr. Alcubierre to explore and devise real mathematical models such as the now famous Alcubierre equation to try to answer the question of a possible faster than light human flight. Like Star Trek films, Back to the Future films inspired physicists to explore levitation technologies, hovercrafts, and the idea of space-time.

The argument that the Back to the Future films represents an immoral act of trying to rewrite history is absurd. And what is even more absurd is the CCP’s claim that it goes against “Chinese Culture.” Chinese culture is constantly evolving, even more than ever now that their culture and people are fully engaged in creating a modern civilization, similar to how Western civilization went through massive changes following Urbanization, Industrialization, and Modernization.

Like E.G Well’s Time Machine novel, BTTF, represents the allure and desire for knowledge and truth, and how the misuse of knowledge can also be detrimental. In the West, do you see every scholar trying to rewrite history after watching those films? No. Making revisions from finding new evidence and theories to debunk old ideas in favor of new ideas, sure? And I am sure the Chinese people are very capable of coming to the same conclusion, without the ridiculous banning by the CCP, the rest of the world sees those films as and, that is, movies purely for entertainment purposes only.

Edited by Josepth, 28 April 2011 - 02:47 AM.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 01:52 PM

Have you read any of the 架空/穿越 books that are very popular in China?

These have nothing to do with scientific inquiries or curiosity. The explanation for these crossing are usually hit by lightening, killed by car, etc etc, and they would be on the body of some historical figures, usually the underdog, to achieve something great through current technological understanding.

I can see why the CCP did this.

I still do not understand the rationale behind the banning of the Back to the Future films. Those films inspired and attracted several generations of philosophical thinkers and scientific thinkers into exploring the possibility of time travel. Allowing the freedom of expression unleashes the creative forces to generate ideas from society. Whether those ideas are science fiction or science reality is irrelevant, because what is fiction today may possibly be reality tomorrow. Science fiction and science reality tend to have an inherent ability to reciprocate from each other; just ask Dr. Michio Kaku, for example, a theoretical physicist, who is constantly exploring the bridge between science fiction and scientific reality. For example, Star Trek films with which ideas of warp drive, teleportation, food replication ideas that were once deemed “only in the movies,” are now seriously explored in the United States. Films like Star Trek inspired mathematicians like Dr. Alcubierre to explore and devise real mathematical models such as the now famous Alcubierre equation to try to answer the question of a possible faster than light human flight. Like Star Trek films, Back to the Future films inspired physicists to explore levitation technologies, hovercrafts, and the idea of space-time.

The argument that the Back to the Future films represents an immoral act of trying to rewrite history is absurd. And what is even more absurd is the CCP’s claim that it goes against “Chinese Culture.” Chinese culture is constantly evolving, even more than ever now that their culture and people are fully engaged in creating a modern civilization, similar to how Western civilization went through massive changes following Urbanization, Industrialization, and Modernization.

Like E.G Well’s Time Machine novel, BTTF, represents the allure and desire for knowledge and truth, and how the misuse of knowledge can also be detrimental. In the West, do you see every scholar trying to rewrite history after watching those films? No. Making revisions from finding new evidence and theories to debunk old ideas in favor of new ideas, sure? And I am sure the Chinese people are very capable of coming to the same conclusion, without the ridiculous banning by the CCP, the rest of the world sees those films as and, that is, movies purely for entertainment purposes only.



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Posted 28 April 2011 - 10:41 PM

CCP is a very reactionary organisation, and it claims everybody as revisionists. The sole concept of time travel stands against CCP's nature.

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 01:11 PM

Thats lot of stuff China like to ban and controlled.




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