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Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:01 PM

How did the Japanese Empire defeat the Mighty and more superior Russian Empire?

 

What did the Treaty of Portsmouth do? Was it something to do with Manchuria or something else?


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:14 PM

How did the Japanese Empire defeat the Mighty and more superior Russian Empire?

 

What did the Treaty of Portsmouth do? Was it something to do with Manchuria or something else?

 

by the time of the Russo-Japanese War,

the Empire of Japan was already undergoing heavy modernization and westernization for 30-40 years, so their weapons were good for its time.

 

some of the reasons why Japan and Russia lost

Russia had major internal problems

The war took place in the Russian Far East.

That means it takes a long time for equipment from European Russia to get to the Far East

It also meant because its so far, many Russians who lived in Europe, didnt feel that area was too important

Also Japan's economy > Russia's economy at that time.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:56 AM

So what weapons did they use in the war? Both Russians and Japanese.

 

How bad was Russia's internal problems?

So if the war took place in the Far East, why doesn't Japan rule it today?

how long did it take to get equipment from European Russia to Far East?

Why didn't the ethnic Russians believe that the Far East was important?

How was Japan's economy better than Russia's at the time?


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:26 PM

So what weapons did they use in the war? Both Russians and Japanese.

 

How bad was Russia's internal problems?

So if the war took place in the Far East, why doesn't Japan rule it today?

how long did it take to get equipment from European Russia to Far East?

Why didn't the ethnic Russians believe that the Far East was important?

How was Japan's economy better than Russia's at the time?

 

1. There was a guy named Lenin in Russia who was causing an internal revolution and the rise of the communist.

2. Japan doesn't rule it today because they lost World War 2.  You could go further back when Japan attempted to expand into Russia but were defeated in Mongolia when a joint Soviet and Mongol force defeated a Japanese and Manchurian force.

3. Over 1 week.  the problem with the trans-siberian rail at the time was that it only had 1 track, so it was one way. too many delays

4. ethnic Russians and other groups living in the Far East obviously thought it was important, but with the revolution going on in Russia, a poor economy, etc, they wanted to worry about what was happening in the western part

5. Japan actually had a large fund reserves to start the war with.  Russia was declining as stated.



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 04:37 AM

A Japanese military attache at the legation in Russia and later moved to Stockholm,Sweden was responsible for much of the Japanese success to defeat Russia.
His name is Akashi Motojiroh. He asked fund of 1 million Japanese Yen to help opposition parties in Russia of different ethnicites like finnish,polish,caucacians and groups like anarchists,seccessionists,communists and socialists inside Russia. It is said that he funded Lennin too. At least 25000 guns and ammunitions were smmugled to Russia to startrevolts and assassinations. The aim was to prevent the Tsar from sending extra divisions to the Far East battlefield. Actually at least 2 divisions were withheld.


That move was successfull,the Tsar troubled by unrests at the capital agreed to talk peace with Japan who was also exhaused. Japanese ammunitions were running low too.

p.s. In order to speed up sodiers sent to F.E. ,vacant carriages were burnt after the journey with no returning to increase transfer of sodiers by 3 folds.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:00 AM

A Japanese military attache at the legation in Russia and later moved to Stockholm,Sweden was responsible for much of the Japanese success to defeat Russia.
His name is Akashi Motojiroh. He asked fund of 1 million Japanese Yen to help opposition parties in Russia of different ethnicites like finnish,polish,caucacians and groups like anarchists,seccessionists,communists and socialists inside Russia. It is said that he funded Lennin too. At least 25000 guns and ammunitions were smmugled to Russia to startrevolts and assassinations. The aim was to prevent the Tsar from sending extra divisions to the Far East battlefield. Actually at least 2 divisions were withheld.


That move was successfull,the Tsar troubled by unrests at the capital agreed to talk peace with Japan who was also exhaused. Japanese ammunitions were running low too.

p.s. In order to speed up sodiers sent to F.E. ,vacant carriages were burnt after the journey with no returning to increase transfer of sodiers by 3 folds.

 

I am not too sure about Sweden's involvement in this war.

 

The 1 million Japanese Yen was provided by Yamagata Aritomo's department which is meant for funding the 1917 revolution in Russia. Yes and he did help Lenin and other opposition too. This affected Russia's determination in the war due to internal and external problems. This guy also spied too.

 

Other thing was protocol of zion.  No one knows who wrote it, but it spread first from russia.

This might have been incentive for some jews to help japanese like location of russian ships and finance.

 

Not too sure about the impact of Protocol of Zion in this war. Though it was way after the war, then it was exposed as a forgery


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