“I disagree. I don't sing any culture's praises just because they are not heard. But I think that those people who say "go to Rome and see the collosium" to 'prove' the superiority of Rome are very ignorant. Not because Rome is inferior. But such people often look at Rome in isolation and shut themselves out from the world. Enjoying the ego comfort that there isn't any other culture that is as good as themselves.
For such people, I woulds say "go and see some of the buildings in Xian today" or those digital reconstructions based on historical data. Better yet, look at the technological advances of both sides during the time baring in mind that different does not mean better or worse. Look at what purpose they serve.
If you have been living in caves all your life, you will find a mud hut impressive. More so if you refuse to look at a brick house when people tell you they exist.”
Well we never said that the Chinese were primitive during Roman times, were saying that the Romans were more advents…. I mean dude the Romans had modern surgery…. And pluming that can be rivaled during modern times…. And that the Romans have such heavy influents in modern day….
“We have to take climate into account too in that case. If your farmer can feed more people, then there should be more people available to do anything else.
Therefore science progress in China was faster than elsewhere in the world.”
That mite be true but you see that the Romans had the aqueduct, which stretched 100’s and 100’s of miles to bring water to there cities and some still to this day continue to bring water. They built the most advanced plumbing in history until the modern age…. Roman aqueducts brought 300 million gallons of water per day to the cities. The aqueduct can make farm lands places that were not possible…. As for farming I think it was not 3 but 5 people… Its not that bad guys…
What’s up with the Crossbow and Steel orgy every time we have Rome Vs Han? The Romans had them too (Romans had Nortic steel)... Dude!The Romans even had hand flamethrowers be for any one in history….
Their is a crossbow called Gastraphetes it’s a much stronger one then the other Roman crossbows. The Gastraphetes was way too strong for any man to throw by hand. So he had to brace the engine against himself and draw the string into successive grooves until it was all the way back. There were more advancements made of the Gastraphetes by the Romans…. So, the Roman crossbows we were talking about in the other thread was the weaker ones. The weaker crossbow was throw by hand and it was to make it fire more…
Guys, I fond out that in the height of the Roman Empire the Romans were not variable to any type of missile fire…. The Roman LORICA SEGMENTATA armor can block any type of missals. I sow a study about this and it blocked arrows multiple times, rocks multiple times, Ballista bolts multiple times, Ballista darts multiple times, and more….(using the Same armor) And the Ballista is much more powerful then any Crossbow... The Romans also had the first chain weapons… “The Repeating ballista was the first Gatlin gun in history…” it was also one of the first chain weapons ever made in History…. it was very, very powerful....
The Roman army is not just an infantry based but an mechanical and siege based…. The Romans bin know to use there siege weapons not only agents fortifications but also use it for anti-infantry , anti-cavalry, and anti-archers….
Some more stuff
Roman medical science was very advance, they knew so many things that are still being practiced today. Especially the “trainers” in sports (trainers are pretty much like medics).
The Romans have the same exact medical tools that a modern doctor will have. The only difference between the modern tools and the Roman tools is that, the Roman tools were made out of bronze also theirs are much more decorated, and modern tools are not decorated, and they’re made of stainless steel I think. Other than that, if you lighten up the medical tools together, they will look exactly the same (beside the decoration of the Roman tools).
They even had history’s first sanitized treatment…. Their knowledge was so great that not even one gladiator has died from the treatment of a Roman doctor. Gladiators will be badly wounded, or heart, the very next day or in 3 days or so (depending on the damage, of how long they will stay with the doctor) they will be good as new. In these recent discoveries of these tools and medical science of the Romans, they have discovered that the ancient Romans perform virtually modern-day surgeries.
They organized the first field medics in there army (this is the first time in history).
The Roman medic were white, had medical supplies, and had standard armor, and helmets. The Roman's medical officer was "medicus" and their equivalent of modern-day enlisted medic were called the "medicus ordinarius". The medicus ordinarious was drawn from the ranks of soldiers, and trained by the Roman army…. “Our own armed forces traditionally train and employ technicians to care for troops in the field just as the early Romans did.” http://www.idmtassoc...n.org/idmt2.htm
I lost some other links or sites, also got this information from some books while back from the school library…
This site is about the history of medics, yes everyone did have some form of medics, but the Romans took it up in another level. Having the first field medics…
This should tell you all that the Romans were far from primitive…. They had so, so much more, the post would be way, way to long if I put it all. This is way I think and most historians would say that the Romans were the most advents....
Edited by Puerto Rican Legionary, 26 October 2005 - 02:06 PM.