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#1 Hendrik_2000

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 01:14 PM

wonder if anyone has info on him like battle,personal history,myth,legends?

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 03:25 PM

He fought against the turks, but somthing happened and he ended up becoming a civilan, I'm not sure really.

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Posted 20 August 2004 - 11:33 PM

Xue Rengui (薛仁贵) was famous for his campaign against Koguryo (Korea) when Tang led an invasion in allies with Silla against this northern korean kingdom.

In 666, the Tang central court sent senior General Li Ji (李勣) (a famous Tang general) with Xue Renggui to lead an attack against Koguryo. This time they made a smooth advance. Fuyu was an important strategic location with tens of thousands of Koguryo guards. Leading only 2000 soldiers, Xue charged into the town killing many of the guards. After Fuyu fell, over 40 other Koguryo towns surrendered in succession.

In 668, the Tang sacked Pyongyang, Koguryo's capital. The Andong Military Command (安东都护府) was set up there with Xue Rengui as the governor. Before long, the Tang withdrew and Silla unified the Korean peninsular.
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Posted 20 August 2004 - 11:54 PM

Here is a biography of Xue Rengui from

http://www.no1190.co...asp?NewsID=1720

I'll translate it into english.

(614~683) 中国唐朝名将。名礼,龙门(今山西河津)人。骁勇善骑射。贞观末,应募从军。唐军攻高丽,在安市城(今辽宁海城南)阻击援军时,他身着白衣奋战获胜,为太宗赏识,升为游击将军、北门长上。后又任右领军郎将。

(614- 683 AD), Tang's famous general. He's called Li and originated from Longmen (today's Shanxi Hejin). He excelled in horse riding and horse archery. During the late years of the Zhenguan reign (Emperor Taizong's time), he joined the Tang army. At that time, Tang was attacking Koguryo (in Korea). At the city of Anshi (today's Liao-ning province haichen city), he intercepted the Koguryo's assistance troop. He wore a white cloth and won the battle. After this victory, he was greatly admired by Emperor Taizong, and was promoted to "Guerilla General", later was appointed as the right-commander chief.

高宗显庆中,辅助营州都督兼东夷都护程名振经略辽东,屡破高丽、契丹军,因功授左武卫将军。龙朔初,铁勒九姓袭扰,他率兵至天山;铁勒聚众10余万,先选数十骁骑挑战,他张弓三箭,射杀三人,其余请降。铁勒军溃逃,唐军追至碛北,获其叶护兄弟三人而还。乾封初,又参与攻高丽,因功授右威卫大将军兼检校安东都护。


During Emperor Gaozong's time, he assisted Yingzhou and Dongyi's governor to attack the Koguryo and Khitan army from Liaodong region. Later was assigned as left martial defense general. Later, the Tujue (Turks or "9 factions of Tiele 铁勒九姓) raided China. He led a force to Tianshan. The Turks had 100,000 troops and sent 10 cavalry on a duel with him, he used only 3 bows and killed 3 turks, which forced the Turks to surrender. The Turks fled and the Tang chased after them and captured Yehu and his brothers (Turks leader). After this campaign, he continued to led Tang's campaign against Koguryo, and after sacking Pyongyang, was later appointed as Youwei Great General plus Andong commandery's governor


咸亨元年(670),吐蕃进扰,高宗以薛仁贵为逻娑道行军大总管,郭待封为副,率兵出击。因郭待封违背其意图,自率辎重前进,遭吐蕃军截击,辎重全部损失。薛仁贵退屯大非川(今青海共和境),被迫与吐蕃约和而还,免官为民。

In 670 AD, the Tubo (Tibetans) raided China. Emperor Gaozong assigned Xue Rengui as Luosa Path Infantry Great Commander, Guo Daifeng as second General to defend against Tubo's attack. Because of Guo Daifeng not listening to his command, they were routed by the Tubo and suffered major loss. Xue Renggui was forced to retreat to Dafeichuan, and was forced to buy peace with the Tubo. He was demoted to be a civilian.

开耀元年(681),又被高宗起用,授瓜州长史;不久,授右领军卫将军,检校代州都督。永淳元年(682),突厥阿史德元珍反唐,他率兵出击。突厥军闻薛仁贵复起为将,自行退走,被唐军趁势追击而溃败。永淳二年(683)病卒。                  


In 681 AD, he was re-used by Empero Gaozong, appointed as Zhuzhou's military chief, re-assigned as right vanguard general. In 682 AD, Tujue (Turk) Ahsideyuan rebelled against Tang and he led the Tang's forces to attack Tujue. The Turks, after hearing that Xue was the general, retreated and was defeated by the Tang.
In 683 AD, Xue passed away.
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Posted 20 August 2004 - 11:55 PM

He fought against the turks, but somthing happened and he ended up becoming a civilan, I'm not sure really.

It was his defeat by Tubo (Tibetans) that he was demoted to be a civilian.
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Posted 21 August 2004 - 12:24 AM

I think the one that should be blamed for the failure in an attack against Tibetan was Guo-Daifeng.He was thinking himself as vice commander in chief so he did not listen to any of Xue-rengui advice and took most of the Tang troops charge into Tibetan territory and got ambushed by the Tibetan army.

And i think before suffering defeat,Xue-rengui manage to defeat the combination of Tibetan-Tuyuhun force some where around qing-hai or was it wu-hai with his heavy calvary even though he was out numbered by them.

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Posted 21 August 2004 - 12:59 AM

Thanks general I am impressed great job how your installment on Koxinga I'm waiting

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Posted 21 August 2004 - 11:05 AM

"He's called Li and originated from Longmen (today's Shanxi Hejin)."

Just some clarifications about the above sentence. Xue Rengui's given name was actually Li (hence Xue Li), and Rengui was his personal name (i.e. chosen by himself when he came of age). Like some other famous personalities in Chinese history, he came to be better known by his personal name.

Xue Rengui's hometown was Longmen - incidentally the same as the great Western Han historian Sima Qian.

"Tujue (Turks or "9 factions of Tiele 铁勒九姓)"

Actually, if you refer to our earlier thread about the Tiele, you'll find that they are actually the Toquz Oghuz and not the Tujue.
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Posted 22 August 2004 - 10:36 PM

The Tubo forces that fought him was far larger, by more than 2 folds, recorded as 200,000 in size, the Tubo treated this invasion as a serious menace, while to the Tang it was just an expedition altough a large one.

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Posted 23 August 2004 - 12:03 AM

Actually, if you refer to our earlier thread about the Tiele, you'll find that they are actually the Toquz Oghuz and not the Tujue.


Yeah.. they are probably the ancestor of Turks in Turkey right?
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Posted 29 August 2004 - 12:21 PM

What havn't been meantioned yet is that Xue is also involved in many novels and myths, he is very much like the Yang Jia Jiang (Yang family generals) story of the Song ...there is a novel called 東爭西爭記 which is a novel loosly based on Xue's offensive in Korea and his (made up) son's campign in the west.
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Posted 29 August 2004 - 06:04 PM

Yup i read it long time ago any link ?

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 03:33 PM

There are stories (and tv series) about Xue Ren Gui's son, Xue Ding Shan. Do you guys have any historical info about him? Thanks.

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 06:09 AM

There are stories (and tv series) about Xue Ren Gui's son, Xue Ding Shan.  Do you guys have any historical info about him?  Thanks.

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I think there is a lot of myth surrounding Xue Ren Gui, like he needed to eat big portion of rice enough to feed 20 adult males and had the power equally to 20 adult males. There was also a story that his alleged son (I'm not sure if he was Xue Ren Gui's son at all) Xue Ding Shan mistaken his father as a tiger and shoot him while they were hunting.
A schoolmate of mine claimed to be a descendant of Xue Ren Gui, but he was so tiny short boy. (We were about 17 years old that time, so I don't expect he will outgrow me now)
I've searched the web for more historical information to no avail, I hope Yun or other forumers could help us to clarify this.
Thanks in advance.

Edited by superquarterback, 08 September 2005 - 06:10 AM.

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 05:35 AM

i know this general
from drama
one from taiwan
and one from tvb drama
hahaha
but his life isn't amazing
but his son and his daughter in law
fan li Hua
and xue ding shan




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