The problem with this issue is the categorising of the South Chinese population and their respective dialect groups. First, being that the Min dialect or Yue dialect is a misnomer (however convenient) which gives of the impression that the dialect/language is not Han in origin. Moreover, there is also a problem with people believing that the ancient Chinese spoke modern Mandarin (like how people think the ancient English sounds and was written the same way as current English) which leads them to think that other dialect can't be considered Han Chinese, therefore not Han Chinese but a tribe that was absorbed into the Han. Secondly, the notion that all the Chinese of the South must be a descendant from the union between a Han ancestor and a local ethnicity pertaining to the Bai Yue (which is very ambiguous to begin with) whom may be exactly the same genetically.
This issue should be resolved through culture and not judged from a genetic point of view. However, what is there to say that the Bai Yue were not related in Y-DNA chromosomes genotypes to the Han Chinese majority with O3 per male individual passed down from their common ancestor. Even moreso, who is to stop anyone from carrying on this culture outside the boundaries of genetics.Although, I find it a growing problem from "Han Chinese" that favours (especially when mixed) or has assimilated into another ethnicity to come back with a distorted predesposition to view/claim against the rest of the Han Chinese.
PS: It is important to know that Y-Dna and mtDna are genotypes and an individual can have either one of the types not a percentage mixture (e.g. you can have O3 or O2a but not both) and is used as an indicator of lineage either paternally for Y-Dna which are only passed down through father to son or maternally through the mtDna from the mother. It is strictly not an indicator for facial or physical features which are dictated by phenotypes. Hence, there could have been so many mixing before that would have went unknown other than the genotypes inherited by the last two parents.
Yes, you're right on "who're we to judge them and tell them what they were". If they associated their culture to 'X' region, does it bother you?
I go to Guangxi every now and then, at least once every 2 months. I have GDTV channel, etc., so I know how the Canto (people who live in Guangdong) people looks like. They'd diverse looks (like most other regions as well), and you do not know what is their sub-ethnic, not until they tell you about it. Assimilation at its best.
I can post loads of celeb/model pictures just for the sake of genotype and phenotype, and have a guessing game if you guys want...
Edited by meis, 29 May 2014 - 09:35 PM.